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    P S Medway Queen

    Whats the reason for the P S Medway Queen to be only allowed to carry 12 passengers

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    Re: P S Medway Queen

    If she ever gets operational and tries to apply for a passenger certificate, all indications are that her design and construction method would not allow her to qualify for a commercial passenger certificate

    The rules for qualification for a certificate for up to 12 passengers are completely different and less onerous .........

    It is useful for certain heritage ships like steam tugs and such like though where large customer numbers are not needed - and where their range of operation would be limited, maybe to just Class C waters as a maximum

    Monarch, for example, is limited to 12 I believe
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    They could get round it by signing so many passengers on has crew

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    P S Medway Queen Originally Posted by billsea P S Medway Queen
    They could get round it by signing so many passengers on has crew
    I think crew are exempted (so long as they are genuine crew - and maybe all have to have to have the necessary qualifications to be classed as such)

    It doesn't get round the fact that she won't be able to operate commercially

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    Re: P S Medway Queen

    P S Medway Queen Originally Posted by tramscape P S Medway Queen
    I think crew are exempted (so long as they are genuine crew - and maybe all have to have to have the necessary qualifications to be classed as such)

    It doesn't get round the fact that she won't be able to operate commercially
    Would the 12 maximum apply if the passengers were non-paying and she essentially operated as a private yacht?

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    P S Medway Queen Originally Posted by kylemore P S Medway Queen
    Would the 12 maximum apply if the passengers were non-paying and she essentially operated as a private yacht?
    I guess not ..... but I presume abuses would be soon apparent

    It throws up a number of potential "dodges" doesn't it. Free trips for "members" etc etc

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    Re: P S Medway Queen

    P S Medway Queen Originally Posted by tramscape P S Medway Queen
    I guess not ..... but I presume abuses would be soon apparent

    It throws up a number of potential "dodges" doesn't it. Free trips for "members" etc etc
    What if they just take donations

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    P S Medway Queen Originally Posted by billsea P S Medway Queen
    What if they just take donations
    It would be regarded as a payment I would have thought. It's not like finding a tax loophole - it's a matter of safety !

    I have just read that vessels with more than 12 aboard are deemed to be "passenger ships" requiring the appropriate certification
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    Re: P S Medway Queen

    P S Medway Queen Originally Posted by tramscape P S Medway Queen
    I guess not ..... but I presume abuses would be soon apparent

    It throws up a number of potential "dodges" doesn't it. Free trips for "members" etc etc
    Free trips for members - if allowed - would still mean she couldn't earn anything towards her running costs.

    However there is also a matter of insurance cover and it is difficult to imagine an insurance company being willing to cover anything that is less than legal. e.g if you don't tax your car it will invalidate your insurance. The last thing any port wants is an uninsured ship causing them trouble.

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